(Hosted by Shane Stirling. Stirling shot Drake’s first video and Introduced Oliver El Khatib to Drake)

• Growing up in suburbs informed Sean’s POV

• Shane: Generally speaking Canadians have a unique perspective because our parents have come from other places. Our upbringings and family influence our perspectives

• Shane to Sean: where did your creative influences come from? Grew up seeing a lot of colour at Yorkdale, watching cartoons, reading magazines. Then moved to around the GTA - moving around and experiencing people and different environments fuelled his creative drive

• Started Bamboo after dropping out of fashion school - school didn’t feel like teachers were there to help students succeed, decided to get experience working in the real world

• Goal of creating merch that was social - Sean used the advantage of one world and applied it to another (experiences in retail to how he planned his own shops)

• Sean: I didn’t succeed in my stores and clothing and projects if I didn’t drop out, if I didn’t do art of reuse.”

• Everything he does well now was rooted in his past challenges and projects

• Shane to Sean: Why was it called needs and wants? “Duality. Everything with me is duality. Digital and film, digital, physical. Everything is duality. In my life, knows the difference between needs and wants was important”

• Shane: “when an artist reaches their final destination, that’s when they label their work with their name. Until then, we, as artists, brand differently, without using our names and true identity until we reach our destination” - just a general observation

Working with Daniel Caesar

• Met him when he decided to start designing clothing - Met while featuring DC in issue 2 of Needs and Wants

• Aga Khan just opened and they used that setting to shoot. SB was the first to interview DC in Needs and Wants

• SB first worked with DC on Pilgrims Paradise for styling, creative direction and graphic design

• Transitioned to film when SB had to fix the video for We Find Love. Used BTS footage to make the video. SB naturally transitioned to film, he never expected doing it until he got the opportunity

• By the time SB started working with DC, he really understood visual storytelling and wouldn’t be able to do that without Needs and Wants or The Art of Reuse; past experience were vital to his successes

• SB focuses on architecture, design, furniture and fashion - these four aspects added context to SB’s style and visual storytelling - Importance of networking horizontally; grow and build with people on your level is just as important as networking with people that are on levels above you

• Shane to Sean: What do you look for in collaborators? What’s your filter, what gets through? “Musicians are different than creative collaborators. I just feel like you should be working with people, nurturing their talent and filling in the gaps. Where you lack, someone has a strength in. Fill the gaps, build the bridges. There’s things that I lack and weaknesses that I have that other people fill. That’s the collaboration. It has to be about people working together for ideas to be bigger. That’s how we get to a better place.”

• Best Part: the duality or night and day in a relationship